The Labour Party owes its existence to the need of ordinary people to have a party which represented them and their interests in Parliament. They need another one now, because Labour have relinquished that role.
Carns is asked where the extra £ for defence should come from.
".. I think there are places, such as moving welfare from hand outs to hand ups"
Describing welfare as hand outs tells us all about Carns politics & who he wants to target - the sick, disabled, low paid, pensioners
